The Global Reparations Movement and Meaningful Resolution of the Armenian Genocide

BY HENRY THERIAULT
From The Armenian Weekly
April 2010 Magazine


Over the past half millennium, genocide, slavery, Apartheid, mass rape, imperial conquest and occupation, aggressive war targeting non-combatants, population expulsions, and other mass human rights violations have proliferated. Individual processes have ranged from months to centuries. While the bulk of perpetrator societies have been traditional European countries or European settler states in Australia, Africa, and the Americas, Asian and African states and societies are also represented among them. These processes have been the decisive force shaping the demographics, economics, political structures and forces, and cultural features of the world we live in today, and the conflicts and challenges we face in it. For instance, understanding why the population of the United States is as it is—why there are African Americans in it, where millions of Native Americans have “disappeared” to, why Vietnamese and Cambodian people have immigrated to the United States, etc.—requires recognizing the fundamental role of genocide, slavery, and aggressive war in shaping the United States and those areas, such as sub-Saharan Africa and Southeast Asia, affected by it.

Around the globe, those in poverty, those victimized by war after war, small residuals of once numerous groups, and others have recognized that their current difficulties, their current misery, is a direct result of these powerful forces of exploitation, subjugation, and destruction. Out of the compelling logic of “necessary fairness”—fair treatment that is necessary to their basic material survival and to their dignity as human beings—many have recognized that the devastating effects of these past wrongs must be addressed in a meaningful way if their groups and societies can hope to exist in sustainable forms in the future. This recognition has led to various reparations movements. Native Americans lay claim to lands taken through brutal conquest, genocide, and fraud. African Americans demand compensation for their contribution of a significant share of the labor that built the United States, labor stolen from them and repaid only with cruelty, violence, and individual and community destruction. Formerly colonized societies whose people’s labor was exploited to build Europe and North America, whose raw materials were stolen to provide the materials, and whose societies were “de-developed,” now struggle to survive as the global Northern societies built on their losses capitalize on the previous thefts to consolidate their dominance. And so on.

In the past decade those engaged in these various struggles have begun to recognize their common cause and a global reparations movement has emerged. In 2005, for instance, Massachusetts’ Worcester State College held an international conference on reparations featuring renowned human rights activist Dennis Brutus, with papers on reparations for South African Apartheid; African American slavery, Jim Crow, and beyond; Native American genocide and land theft; the “comfort women” system of sexual slavery implemented by Japan; the use of global debt as a “post-colonial” tool of domination; and the Armenian Genocide. While there are dozens if not hundreds of major reparations processes in the world today, it will be instructive to consider these cases in detail, as illustrations of these many struggles.

U.S. slavery destroyed African societies and exploited and abused violently millions of human beings for 250 years. At its dissolution, it pushed former slaves into the U.S. economy without land, capital, and education. Initial recognition of the need to provide some compensation for slavery in order to give former slaves a chance toward basic economic self-sufficiency gave way to violent and discriminatory racism. Former slaves were forced into the economic order at the lowest level. Wealth is preserved across generations through inheritance. Those whose people begin with little and who do not enslave or exploit others will remain with little. Reparations for African Americans recognizes that the poverty, discrimination, and other challenges facing African Americans today result from injustices more than 100 years ago that have never been corrected, and the subsequent racist violence and discrimination that has preserved the post-slavery status quo every since.

The South African case revolved around the fact that, as the world had divested from South Africa in the 1980’s, the Afrikaner government borrowed money, especially from Switzerland, to continue to finance Apartheid. Against the international embargo, bankers’ loans paid for the guns and other military hardware that were used to kill black activists and keep their people in slavery. The fall of Apartheid did not mean an end to the debt. Today’s South Africans live in poverty as their country is forced to pay off the tens of billions of U.S. dollars in loans incurred to keep them in slavery before. They pay yet further billions for the pensions of Afrikaner government, military, and police officials living out their days in quiet comfort after murdering, torturing, and raping with impunity for decades. What is more, U.S. and other corporations drew immense profits from South African labor. Many victims of Apartheid reject the loan debt and demand reparation for all they suffered and all that was expropriated from them as the just means for bringing their society out of poverty. After years of refusal, the South African government itself has recently reversed its position based on the desire to curry favor with large corporations and has begun to support U.S. court cases for reparations from corporations enriched by Apartheid.

In the aftermath of decolonization, societies devastated by decades or centuries of occupation, exploitation, cultural and familial destruction, and genocide were left in poverty and without the most basic resources needed to meet the minimum needs of their people. Forced suddenly to compete with those who had enriched themselves and grown militarily and culturally powerful through colonialism, they had no chance. Their only option was to borrow money in the hope of “catching up.” But corrupt and selfish leaders diverted billions to private bank accounts (with winks from former colonial powers), invested in foolish and irrelevant public works projects, and otherwise misappropriated money that was supposed to help these societies. Loan makers, such as the International Monetary Fund and World Bank, imposed conditions to push these societies into a new servitude to the economies of the United States and other great powers. Servicing the loans that have not helped their economies develop now means sacrificing basic human services and healthcare in these desperate societies and accepting extensive outside control of their societies to benefit former colonizers and multinational corporations at the expense of further degradation of the dignity and material conditions of their populations. The Jubilee movement calls for debt cancellation as a crucial step toward justice for the devastation of colonialism and post-colonialism and a path toward a sustainable and fair global economy.

Former comfort women have long faced assaults on their dignity in their home countries and by Japan. They were often impoverished by their devastating experiences of being raped on average thousands of times in permanent rape camps as sexual slaves to the Japanese military. Physical damage from incessant forced intercourse and the brutal violence soldiers subjected them to, the aftermath of coerced drug addiction, and intense psychological trauma have frequently followed the women into their old age. They have needed medical care as well as acknowledgment of the inhuman injustice done to them. In the early 1990’s, surviving “comfort women” began calling for reparations to address the effects of what they had suffered.

Native Americans and Armenians share certain similarities in their past experiences and challenges today, from being crushed by competing as well as sequential imperial power-games and conquests, and a series of broken or unfair treaties, to a history of being subject to massacre, sexual violence, and societal destruction. Members of both groups have been sent on their “long marches” to death. In the aftermath of active genocide through direct killing and deadly deportation, even the remnants of these peoples on their own lands have been erased, through the raiding and destruction of hundreds of thousands to millions of Native American graves as a policy of the U.S. “scientific” establishment, and the continuing destruction of remaining Armenian Church and other structures throughout Turkey. For Native Americans, the continuing expropriation of land and resources, the blocking of Native American social structures and economic activity, and the dramatic demographic destruction (an estimated 97 percent in the continental United States) has left behind a set of Indian nations subject to the whims of the U.S. government and struggling to retain identity and material survival in a hostile world. Reparations, particularly of traditional lands, are essential to the survival of Native peoples and cultures. Similarly, from its status as the major minority in the Ottoman Empire a century ago, today an Armenian population of below 3 million in the new republic faces a Turkey of 70 million with tremendous economic resources built on the plunder of Armenian wealth and land—through genocide and the century of oppression and massacre that preceded it—and tremendous military power awarded it through aid from the United States in recognition of its regional power—also gained through genocide. The Armenian Diaspora of perhaps five million is dispersed across the globe and slowly losing cohesion and relevance as powerful forces of assimilation and fragmentation take their toll. Reparations in the form of compensation for the wealth taken, which in many cases can be traced to Turkish families and business today, and lands depopulated of Armenians and thus “Turkified” through genocide, are crucial to the viability of Armenian society and culture in the future. Without the kind of secure cradle the Treaty of Sevres was supposed to give Armenians, true regeneration is impossible: Turkish power, still violently hostile to Armenians, grows each day, as the post-genocide residual Armenia degenerates.

Of course, reparations are not simply about mitigating the damage done to human collectivities in order to make possible at least some level of regeneration or future survival, however important this is. Reparations also represent a concrete, material, permanent, and thus not merely rhetorical recognition by perpetrator groups or their progeny of the ethical wrongness of what was done, and of the human dignity and legitimacy of the victim groups. They are the form that true apologies take, and the act through which members who supported the original assault on human rights or who benefited from it—economically, politically, militarily, culturally, and in terms of the security of personal and group identity—decisively break with the past and refuse to countenance genocide, slavery, Apartheid, mass rape, imperial conquest and occupation, aggressive war focused on civilians, forced expulsions, or any other form of mass human rights violation.

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It is with both dimensions in mind that in 2007 Jermaine McCalpin, a political scientist with a recent Ph.D. from Brown University specializing in long-term justice and democratic transformation of societies after mass human rights violations; Ara Papian, former Armenian ambassador to Canada and expert on the relevant treaty history and law; Alfred de Zayas, former senior lawyer with the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights and Chief of Petitions, and currently professor of international law at the Geneva School of Diplomacy and International Relations; and I came together to study the issue of reparations for the Armenian Genocide in concrete terms. The Armenian Genocide Reparations Study Group’s (AGRSG) work has culminated in a draft report on the legal, treaty, and ethical justifications for reparations and offers concrete proposals for the political process that will support meaningful reparations. The following are some of the elements of the AGRSG findings, arguments, and proposals.

International law makes clear that victim groups have the right to remedies for harms done to them. This applies to the Armenian Genocide for two reasons. First, the acts against Armenians were illegal under international law at the time of the genocide. Second, the 1948 UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide applies retroactively. While the term “genocide” had not yet been coined when the 1915 Armenian Genocide was committed, the Convention subsumes relevant preexisting international laws and agreements, such as the 1899 and 1907 Hague Conventions. Since the genocide was illegal under those conventions, it remains illegal under the 1948 Convention. What is more, the current Turkish Republic, as successor state to the Ottoman Empire and as beneficiary of the wealth and land expropriations made through the 1915 genocide, is responsible for reparations.

While the 1920 Sevres Treaty, which recognized an Armenian state much larger than what exists today, was never ratified, some of its elements retain the force of law and the treaty itself is not superseded by the 1923 Treaty of Lausanne. In particular, the fixing of the proper borders of an Armenian state was undertaken pursuant to the treaty and determined by a binding arbital award. Regardless of whether the treaty was ultimately ratified, the committee process determining the arbital award was agreed to by the parties to the treaty and, according to international law, the resulting determination has legal force regardless of the ultimate fate of the treaty. This means that, under international law, the so-called “Wilsonian boundaries” are the proper boundaries of the Armenian state that should exist in Asia Minor today.

Various ethical arguments have been raised against reparations generally and especially for harms done decades or centuries in the past. Two of particular salience are that (1) a contemporary state and society that did not perpetrate a past mass human rights violation but merely succeeded the state and society that did, does not bear responsibility for the crime nor for repairing the damage done, for this would be penalizing innocent people; and (2) those pursuing Armenian Genocide land reparations are enacting a territorial nationalist irredentism that is similar to the Turkish nationalism that drove Turkification of the land through the genocide, and is thus not legitimate.

To the first objection, the report responds that because current members of Turkish society benefit directly from the destruction of Armenians in terms of increased political and cultural power as well as a significantly larger “Turkish” territory and a great deal of personal and state wealth that has been the basis of generations of economic growth, they have a link to the genocide. While they cannot be blamed morally for it, they are responsible for the return of wealth and making compensation to Armenians for other dimensions of the genocide. To the second objection, the report responds that the lands in question became “Turkish” precisely through the ultranationalist project of the genocide. Retaining lands “Turkified” in this way indicates implicit approval of that genocidal ultra-nationalism, while removing Turkish control is the only route to a rejection of that ideology.

In addition to the legal, political, and ethical arguments justifying reparations, the report also proposes a complex model for the political process for determining and giving reparations. The report makes clear that material reparations and symbolic reparations, including an apology and dissemination of the truth about what happened in 1915, as well as rehabilitation of the perpetrator society are crucial components of a reparations process if it is to result in a stable and human rights-respecting resolution. The report proposes convening an Armenian Genocide Truth and Reparations Commission with Turkish, Armenian, and other involvement that will work toward both developing a workable reparations package and a rehabilitative process that will tie reparations to a positive democratic, other-respecting transformation of the Turkish state and society. As much as reparations will be a resolution of the Armenian Genocide legacy, they will also be an occasion for productive social transformation in Turkey that will benefit Turks.

Finally, the report makes preliminary recommendations for specific financial compensation and land reparations. The former is based in part on the detailed reparations estimate made as part of the Paris Peace Conference, supplemented by additional calculations for elements not sufficiently covered by the conference’s estimation of the material financial losses suffered by Armenians. The report also discusses multiple options regarding land return, from a symbolic return of church and other cultural properties in Turkey to full return of the lands designated by the Wilsonian arbital award. The report includes the highly innovative option of allowing Turkey to retain political sovereignty over the lands in question but demilitarizing them and allowing Armenians to join present inhabitants with full political protection and business and residency rights. This model is interesting in part because it suggests a human rights-respecting, post-national concept of politics that some might see as part of a transition away from the kinds of aggressive territorial nationalisms—such as that which was embraced by the Young Turks—that so frequently produce genocide and conflict.

On May 15, 2010, the AGRSG will present its draft report formally in a public event at George Mason University’s Institute for Conflict Analysis and Resolution in Arlington, Va.

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  1. Nairian said:

    Though I appreciate Mr. Theriault’s essay and comments; but I maintain that both the Sevres Treaty and the Wilson Arbitration Award gives our lands back to the owners; the Armenians but without reservation and without having Turkey to retain political sovereignty over Armenians. Those lands were awarded by President Woodraw Wilson having in mind the Armenian Genocide committed by Turkey, having in mind that those lands and much more were originally Armenian lands for millenia and finally having in mind that after the Armenian Genocide, Turkey owed us reparations in form of our wealth, our buildings and our lands that belonged to the Armenians.

  2. VICTORIA said:

    I AGREE 100% with the President Woodraw Wilson’s attributions, the Sevres Treaty – this international agreements are legally binding and yet to be executed. Shame on those that did not and tried to replace it with the Lausanne Treaty without any Armenian presence and signiture. Our posture should be to tell ALL WELL WISHERS and MEDIATORS to kindly APPLY WHAT THEY HAVE SIGNED. Yes every Armenian expects this that there No-more MULTIPLE JUSTICES & MEASURES, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH it is 95yrs pending.

  3. MihranK said:

    I totally agree with Naria,without our lands back genocide recognition means nothing, the Sevres Treaty and Wilson Arbitration Award must be pursued with the utmost vigour by the Armenian Government.

  4. Abbe said:

    I deffenetly agree with all the comments.
    Why are we seeking the recognition of the Armenian Genocide ?
    Well yes, bacuse 1. We want jutice in this world, 2. We want what we lost back and 3. We want the economic loses thanks to the Ottoman Empire too.
    Why is the entire Eastern Turkey just a Shithole ? Well, because they know that they have to give it back sooner or later.

    THE GREATEST MISSTAKE would be to say that we don’t want our lands back.

  5. Abbe said:

    BTW… and now I’m not talking about all the historical buildings and all our history that have been erased and krushed into peaces.

    We desreve these lands and we MUST get them back and nothing else.
    I would like to say, “NO MATTER WHAT” too, because this question is very personal to every Armenian. Out ancestors was murdered. It is our duty to show the world that they didn’t die for nothing and that Turkey don’t get away with all the lands !!!!

  6. john papazian said:

    So this is what it comes down to? Payback? If we intend to restore our nation then its not going to happen in court. Lets face lt,our nation is dying,counting on anything but our selves is a fools daydream. Does anyone in their right mind believe for one second that the Turks would give back any lands without a fight? Is Armenia prepared for that,I know we can. Can we count the U.S., E.U.,or the U.N. What do you think?

  7. Abbe said:

    Well so you think it is right to just let them get the land that they took and to get their price that they took after the Genocide ?
    Armenia is not dying. And if that is the case, can it be worse ? No !
    You are thinking in a wrong, kind of desperate way.
    It would be like saying, “We all know ,that turkey won’t recognize the Armenian Genocide, so why do we want to them to say so, the people who dies is already dead”.
    And if we are just walking around with our pathetic low grade wishes we wont come anywhere.

  8. Robert said:

    Henry, Victoria, Nairian, etc,

    You are ALL living in a dream world! Just as the Wilson’s League of Nations was never ratified by the Senate, neither was thr Treaty of Serves!! It’s simply a worthless document that belongs in an archive and to be mentioned briefly as a footnote in history books! While you’re all wishing, why don’t you wish for gold to be made out of lead! I read your comments and despearte acts of clinging on to a dream that was destroyed by your very own hands (the traitors known as the Dashnaks), forcing the hands of the Ottomans to do what ANY other nation, given the circumstances, would have to do for self survival! So don’t whine to the world at every corner! Accept the situation and move on with your lives! Your croccadile tears are getting just a tad old already!! How would you like it if we whined to the world at every chance about the 2.5 million Moslems and non-Moslems which died as a result of the rebellious and traitorous actions of your Dashnak Armenians butchers?!! They began murdering Moslem from the late 1880’s all the way to 1993!!! Who mourns for their victims? Hell, Dahnkas even murdered their own Armenian people when they refused to help them commit mass genocides against Turks and Kurds! Remember the quote from Sir Ellis Bartlett from the floor of Parliament in Februrary of 1895 when he said…”Armenians are of all the Oriental peoples, the most adroit, the most subtle, and the MOST PRONE TO LYING!”. So don’t think that the world doesn’t know who or what you all really are! After the historical commissions, the entire world will know with complete certainty!!

    So whine away as much as you want. BTW, would you all care for some cheese with your whine?!!

  9. Elsa said:

    Can someone tell what is the reason Armenians havn’t gone to the international court?

  10. manooshag said:

    Hye, an Armenian for Armenians, which is due and owing for the Turkish Genocide perpetrated on the Christian Armenians… for the lives lost, the lands lost, the properties/homes and more lost, for the dispersal of our Survivors to the four corners of the civilized world for nearly these 100 years .
    Never Armenians to be ‘granted’ any space in any Turkish lands – never again to be Turkish citizens!
    Armenians suffered enough of the Turkish basest ‘citizenship’…suffered these Ottoman mentalities for lo the years since the 19th century – into the 21st century!
    Today, having the Turks as neighbors is a trying and difficult life for Armenians – it will take 100 years to eliminate the Turkic attitudes towards Armenians whose nation Turks stole, not by any wars, but by the vile and shameless Turkish leaderships’ Genocides – now seeking to ‘protocol’ the Armenians – still. Thanks, but no thanks.
    Armenians, as an enlightened and intelligent peoples deserve better. Armenians have much to add to the
    sciences and more to share with the civilized nations. Armenians deserve to be rid of the Turkish mentality – having suffered them at their worst – Armenians have earned the right to be rid of the Turk yoke.
    Manooshag
    Armenians deserve their own lands – reparations – with access to the seas and more, access to the civilized nations of the world, as Armenia has much to offer to the sciences, and more,

  11. Abbe said:

    @ Robert

    A pretty common point of view from a turk who talks about some kind of Genocide commited by the Armenians. I suggest you to take a closer look on history and specially on this question from a neutral point of view so that you discover what we are talking about here.
    This is not a dream, we just want what we lost back, is that a dream… if everything was lost due to inhumanity ?

    @ manooshag

    I totaly agree with you manooshag, we deserve what we lost back. Becuse this loss was not a war or something we got through thanks to our own will. This was a Genocide and as the Jews got their own nation, we desreve to get our lost lands back.

  12. Edward Mouradian said:

    Dear Robert, We all know how you were sexually abused by all your mongol fathers,not to mention the long devastating decades of self-abuse but this is not an excuse to practice your schizophrenic paranoias on internet.We also see that the billions of dollars your pimpish pezevenk “state” of “Cold Turkey”gets every year are not enough to cure all incurable faggots like thou so let’s urge pres.Obama to give you and your mongrel mongols top priority in his health-care reforms.Until then we will happily foot your bills for any medical treatment you &your ill-fated ilk so desperately need

  13. manooshag said:

    Source: THE TRAVELLERS’ DICTIONARY OF QUOTATION, edited by Peter Yapp – a few of the ‘quotes’… (shorter ones) but as you will agree, over years, all these ‘comments’ still are truths.

    “Nouse avons sur les bras un homme malade-un homme gravement malade. We have on our hands a sick man, a very sick man (the sick man of Europe-the declining Ottoman Empire).” by Nicholas I of Russia, quoted by Sir G.H. Seymour, in Letter to Lord John Russell, 11 January 1853.
    (Note: even then Turkey was the ‘sick man’ and,still is the sick man in 2010).
    “I wish Europe would let Russian annihilate Turkey a little-not much, but enough to make it difficult to find the place again, without a divining-rod or a diving bell.”
    by Mark Twain, THE INNOCENTS ABROAD, 1869
    “Before World War I Turkey was known as the ‘Sick Man of Europe'; now it is almost a terminal case.”
    by Richard Nixon, THE REAL WAR, 1980
    “Turks are ful of brags And menace more than they can wel performe.
    by Christopher Marlowe, TAMBURLAINE, Part I, c. 1587
    ” Turks never observe their promises, unless it be with advantage, and are conditonal bargains, as time giveth occasion to their liking. They are extrememly inclined to all sorts of lascivious luxury, and generally addicted, besides all their sensual aqnd incestuous lusts, unto sodomy, which they account as a dainty to digest all their other libidinous pleasures. They hold that every one hath the hour of his death wrote upon his fore-brow, and that none can escape the good or evil predestined for them. This ridiculous error makes them so bold and desparate, yea, and often, to run headlong into the most inevitable dangers…”
    by William Lithgow, RARE ADVENTURES AND PAINFULL PEREGRINATIONS, 1614/32.
    “Constantinople is a city where the Oriental loses his virtues and the Occidental adds to his vice.”
    by Caleb Frank Gates, NOT TO ME ONLY, 1940
    “They (Turks) have not past; they are not an historical people; they exist only in the present.”
    by Samuel Taylor Coleridge, TABLE TALK, 1 January 1823.
    “Will they ever be civilized? I think not. Such a fine country ought to be in better hands.”
    by John Webster, NOTES OF A JOURNEY FROM LONDON TO CONSTANTINOPLE, 1836
    All these ‘quotes’, substantiated, are but a few of the shorter quotes – there are many, many more.
    Manooshag

  14. manooshag said:

    Source: THE TRAVELLERS’ DICTIONARY OF QUOTATION, edited by Peter Yapp – a few of the ‘quotes’… (shorter ones) but as you will agree, over years, all these ‘comments’ still are truths.

    “Nouse avons sur les bras un homme malade-un homme gravement malade. We have on our hands a sick man, a very sick man (the sick man of Europe-the declining Ottoman Empire).” by Nicholas I of Russia, quoted by Sir G.H. Seymour, in Letter to Lord John Russell, 11 January 1853.
    (Note: even then Turkey was the ‘sick man’ and,still is the sick man in 2010).
    “I wish Europe would let Russia annihilate Turkey a little-not much, but enough to make it difficult to find the place again, without a divining-rod or a diving bell.”
    by Mark Twain, THE INNOCENTS ABROAD, 1869
    “Before World War I Turkey was known as the ‘Sick Man of Europe'; now it is almost a terminal case.”
    by Richard Nixon, THE REAL WAR, 1980
    “Turks are ful of brags And menace more than they can wel performe.
    by Christopher Marlowe, TAMBURLAINE, Part I, c. 1587
    ” Turks never observe their promises, unless it be with advantage, and are conditonal bargains, as time giveth occasion to their liking. They are extremely inclined to all sorts of lascivious luxury, and generally addicted, besides all their sensual and incestuous lusts, unto sodomy, which they account as a dainty to digest all their other libidinous pleasures. They hold that every one hath the hour of his death wrote upon his fore-brow, and that none can escape the good or evil predestined for them. This ridiculous error makes them so bold and desparate, yea, and often, to run headlong into the most inevitable dangers…”
    by William Lithgow, RARE ADVENTURES AND PAINFULL PEREGRINATIONS, 1614/32.
    “Constantinople is a city where the Oriental loses his virtues and the Occidental adds to his vice.”
    by Caleb Frank Gates, NOT TO ME ONLY, 1940
    “They (Turks) have not a past; they are not an historical people; they exist only in the present.”
    by Samuel Taylor Coleridge, TABLE TALK, 1 January 1823.
    “Will they ever be civilized? I think not. Such a fine country ought to be in better hands.”
    by John Webster, NOTES OF A JOURNEY FROM LONDON TO CONSTANTINOPLE, 1836
    All these ‘quotes’, substantiated, are but a few of the shorter quotes – there are many, many more.
    Manooshag

  15. joe said:

    “robert” aka mehmet: you are the same old FILTHY turk. youe are the proff positve thet turk is the same old barbarian much lower than animal. you ugly to the core turks will burn will burn hell for perpetuity.

  16. Nairian said:

    Robert, you know what I think? I think it was a sick fascist turk like you who killed our saintly Hrant Dink. Your warped mind doesn’t function other than spitting spew towards Armenians and Tashnagtsutyun. You cannot spew garbage from your degrading mouth every second without saying stupidity, lies and forgery towards the most hororable party such as Tashnagtsutyun. You don’t deserve to take Tashnagtsutyun in your dirty mouth. Leave this website already and go to Mongolia where your sick turkish tribes came from.

  17. Alex Postallian said:

    I will reiterate The Armenian Genocide Issue,and why it occured.In WW1, the turkies were part of the Axis Group,viz Germany/Austria.After being soundly beaten by an EQUAL army of Allies,they quit and GROVELED to join the Allies.In street language they call it TURNED YELLOW. After they forced kemal attaturkey out:the young jerks or turks turned their anger of defeat on the poor innocent,unarmed Armenian women,children,old people.The victory of the Dardinelles, a stupid British general attacked the turks on the hilltop,commanded by German officers,that a group of Boy Scouts could defend.Will the yellow stain return again,of course, its their mongol horde heritage.

  18. john papazian said:

    I think I said this before,thousands of photographs,reels of film from the good ol days,and testimony of Americans,Germans,Britts,and even your own fellow Turks.I really believe that the Turks are more enraged at being held accountable then we are about the genocide. Maybe if the Turks gave us reservations and casinos,you know,since thats how its all veiwed.We are like the indians to the Turks,and thats also how we are looked down on in this country as well. I dont live in a sheltered little enclave,I’m out here in the wilderness. I’ve lived here in cereal city for 12 years and never met another Armenian.The only way we will ever see the lands we lost is to….I shudder to think how someone much younger or worse more angry might finnish that sentence.Is a public ad campain to acknowledge historical fact the way to go? Is waiting for an American president to grow a pair the way to go? Hey maybe Michael Moore can help us out.Someone told me to use a soft touch and I gotta tell ya,soft won’t get it done,not recognition much less reperations.

  19. manooshag said:

    Hye, under international law “Wilsonian boundaries’ are the proper boundaries of the Armenian state that should exist in Asia minor today. Turks, with all their PLOYS, have been counting the minutes when the Armenians shall be ‘diminished’ no long exist as an entity – anywhere – and this issue shall have ended as the Turks had planned. Well, we are here, all the world over, and we our reparations and more are due and owing.
    As the Turks ‘eliminated’ the Armenians from their ancient homelands of nearly 4,000 years – via the
    horrors as only Ottoman mentality can devise – so too, the Turks can ‘remove’ any and all Turks from all these lands belonging to the Armenians – not slaughter, rape, kidnap and worse as Turks did to the Armenians – but as peacefully as you are able – just take the your Turks out of the Armenian lands – now.
    The nations of the world are watching to see the actions of the bullying Turks – whose gyrations in all
    endeavors seem to end unsuccessfully, agreements/disagreements, alliances, unsigned agreements from all the agreements Turks were to sign and are still awaiting… The instability of the Turkish leadership is
    another factor – these leaderships are still of the Ottoman mentality and do not understand that the world has moved on – alliances are made to last, a EU is formed for nations of likeminds, and more.
    Turkey is still in the angry bully stance. Turkey has regressed while the rest of the world has advanced.
    Vile acts, such as a muslim religious center, with swimming pools, is to be built at the 9/ll site – if this is not an ‘in your face’ behavior – just as they make certain that events occur with Armenians on April 24th since this is the date when , April 24, 1915 the 20th century segment of the Turkish Genocide of the Armenians resumed in full force – ‘in your face’ behavior – again. Turks, your bullying days are showing.
    Manooshag

  20. Mr. Michael R. Williams said:

    2-4-2011 – Please, keep me updated on ” All Reparations progressions “, Mr. Michael R. Williams 16652 Turner Detroit, Michigan 48221 – 4916 ; 1-313-212-2952 :

    ThankYou :

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